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we are either lazy about playing or lazy about posting. not sure which.

infos

management:
jamesmurphy@monotoneinc.com

band humans:
james murphy, pat mahoney, tyler pope, nancy whang, matthew thornley, al doyle, gavin r. russom, david scott stone, phil mossman, j.d. mark, & phil skarich.

booking in the north america:
marc geiger william morris agency MGeiger@wmeentertainment.com
samantha kirby yoh SKirby@wmeentertainment.com

booking ex-n.a.:
david levy william morris agency dlevy@wmeentertainment.com

US PRESS CONTACT: STEVE MARTIN
phone: 212 343 0740 fax: 212 343 0630
steve@nastylittleman.com
address: 110 greene st. suite 605
new york, NY 10012

UK PRESS CONTACT: JAMES HOPKINS
(+ 44) 7715612753
lcdhopkins@googlemail.com

fuck you, scalpers. terminal 5 shows added.

holy shit
this here is just to say that we were more than taken aback and surprised about the speed of ticket sales for the april 2nd MSG gig, as well as the effectiveness of scalper pieces of fucking shit at getting their hands on said tickets before fans could, and it’s knocked us on our asses.
no—we didn’t have a smart paperless ticketing system in place, and no—we didn’t have the pre-sale worked out very well, but this is simply because we’ve never sold anything out so quickly in our LIVES, and certainly never sold out anything as big as MSG. i personally thought i was being bold in suggesting to our manager that we might sell it out “in 10 days”. that was my bold claim. everyone laughed at me. it’s us and liquid liquid. that’s it. we had MEETINGS and MEETINGS about the “other band” we needed to “fill the place”, as we were definitely considered to be nowhere near big enough (most of these bands were, like, way bigger than us, by the way).
we didn’t sell out hollywood bowl, and that was with both hot chip and sleigh bells. there was, i repeat, no expectation of our selling this out either. my main concerns at the time were things like ticketmaster charges—how they were going to make the tickets ridiculously costly… we never dreamed some shitbags would try to get THOUSANDS for our show. it’s insane.
but it happened. we all looked at each other in horror and sat there. i mean, aren’t you supposed to be psyched? your band sold out madison square garden! i live in nyc, and that’s THE PLACE. i saw the jackson’s victory tour there when i was a kid.
but there it was—the shit was gone, and people—not just people, but fucking proper fans—were PISSED. nancy from the band tried to buy tickets. failed. i tried. failed. our best friends—not wanting to hassle us for guestlist spots tried—failed. i bought 2 tickets to my own show for 3 times the value like an idiot to see if real tickets showed up. my family got burned.
it was, to say the least, weird.
we tried getting another day at MSG. i’d mentioned this before and most everyone kind of rolled their eyes at me. “2 madison square garden shows, dude? really?” i thought, well, just in case, you know? maybe some people would fly from other places or something. but MSG, being one of the most popular venues on the planet, was unsurprisingly booked. (for the record: just because it doesn’t look booked on the internet, doesn’t mean it’s available. just saying.)
we tried calling our lawyer about the ticket scalping. “it’s legal”. no joke. it’s fucking legal. i tramped around with friends and band getting insane. i wanted to buy some expensive tickets and then track the seller down to BEAT him. i acted stupid. i did some classic, shakespearean vain “fist shaking”, etc. i made angry tweets. (i’m wondering now what on earth could be less effective and more of a first-world spoiled idiotic move than “angry tweets”? jesus.) i read conspiracy theories about how this was some cash-grab i orchestrated. i read that there are 50,000 seats at MSG (i think our show will have 13k). i read that people had already bought flights, hotels. wanted to bring their kids. waited in the cold. i read that some people thought this was one of the reasons we were calling it quits (check). i read that this was a media stunt we planned. i read very funny comments from my friend aziz, one of which was taken seriously (that MSG had given me 30,000 tickets personally for guest list). i read that i was giving all the tickets to my “new celebrity friends” (aziz is about the closest thing i have to a “celebrity friend”, and we met at terminal 5 watching hot chip when we were, well, not very “celebrated”). i read that we should cancel the show and put the tickets up on sale in a better fashion. i read that we should NOT do that, for fuck’s sake. i read that we should go fuck ourselves.
i read a lot of stuff, waiting to hear if we could get another night at MSG, which seemed like the only option. but it failed. then i kind of sat in my house, trying not to worry for 20 minutes, and made a very, very good coffee.
i don’t know what people think about us, really. i’d love to say i don’t care, but i do. these people in my band—they are my very good friends. i love them very much. i love this band very much. everything about it. i’m very proud of it—of us, and i get defensive when people talk shit about us. i feel like we’ve been able to do something sort of special for 9 years: making music we like the way we like it. going on tour and playing, no computers or bullshit. no in-ears. a bunch of weird substitute teachers just trying to play something like the bands we loved growing up. whenever anyone said shit about us being sellouts or something, it stung, because i consider this entire thing—the band, everything—to be a communication between us and whoever is listening, and not just a thing unto itself. i remember being a fan and seeing bands, thinking “this is us. this is you playing and me/us watching” and how real that connection was, and i always wanted to honor that strange relationship with our band. so when someone felt wronged or hurt or outraged, it stung. it stung because, on some level, regardless of the “you can’t please everyone” stuff that gets rationally said to you when this shit happens, it meant that i’d failed. i’d failed to communicate. on the other hand, i’ve had my world turned upside down by a lot of amazing things people have said about us, or to us. i’ve met fans and made friends, and felt very strongly how that relationship actually works—and how we brought ourselves, each other, finally here, to where we play our last show—and biggest show ever—together, at this amazing place.
and then, this fucking ticket thing happened.
so to the point. you can’t make everyone happy, and i’m sure this will wind someone up somewhere (“but i paid $600 for one seat at MSG!!!) or seem like some shitty “plan” to someone else (“they were gonna do it all along!!! it’s all a big retirement money plan to bilk the fans!!!”) or something else that someone who theoretically likes our band thinks (why are you trying to buy a ticket?? how could you even listen to a band that you think is capable of some of this shit!??) but we’ve come up with the best solution i can think of, as quickly as possible so as to deflate the market for those scalping scumfucks.
we’re going to play 4 shows at terminal 5 in nyc leading up to the MSG show, and they will include most if not all of the songs we play at MSG. the farewell run-up to the last dance. it’ll be the 28th, 29th, 30th and 31st of march. OBVIOUSLY we’re going to look seriously at the way we sell these tickets. not “paperless, (i’ve been advised that the “paperless” thing is apparently now ILLEGAL in NY… seriously—don’t ask me) but there are some ideas floating around that could be just as effective (though it’ll take a minute to get folks in the door.)
we’ll announce the shows officially early in the week, and tickets will be on sale soon after. we’re announcing all the shows at once, and if they don’t sell out, i don’t care. i just want to give people who actually want to see us a chance to see us. for a reasonable ticket price. and i want to drop the price of the MSG tickets being sold by piece of shit scalpers.
oh—and a small thing to scalpers: “it’s legal” is what people say when they don’t have ethics. the law is there to set the LIMIT of what is PUNISHABLE (aka where the state needs to intervene) but we are supposed to have ethics, and that should be the primary guiding force in our actions, you fucking fuck.
and to everyone else: thank you. you rule. don’t let the shitbags win.
i feel like conan o’brien.
james

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293 comments to fuck you, scalpers. terminal 5 shows added.

  • MKIELIXXX

    “and made a very, very good coffee” Of course you did….. come to PDX after MSG …we’ll share another….

  • Disco Infiltrator

    James and band members, I adore your music. I adore your passion. I adore that you keep it real.

    I am attending the MDG gig. It will be my third and final time seeing you. Every time I’ve seen you I feel that relationship you describe in your letter. I feel like through your music I know you and you know me. We are speaking to each other’s souls. It’s AWESOME to know that you know that feeling. It makes it so much more real for me.

    The first time I saw LCD Soundsystem you played Electric Picnic in 2007. When you sang “New York, I love you but you’re bringing me down” I was nearly in tears. You’re voice is simply beautiful.

    While it is bittersweet for me to attend the MSG gig, I am on board to make it the best funeral ever!

    I love you and I look forward to hearing the music you and the band members will produce going forward.

    One love!

    P.S. Yes, I’m the Disco Infiltrator. It’s a nickname given to me by a dear friend. Please play that song at MSG. Please. (Also, Beat Connection. I need to hear that live before I die!)

  • DC

    I never really knew you guys until now. I can see that I missed something good. hopefully I can get tix to a term. 5 show and experience the hype. good stuff, thanks for the rant. Great music, must have had a bucket on my head

  • Dan McDonnell

    You rock James! Ima try and take me and my 5 yr old son to one of these shows, my son is your biggest fan (next to me) he deserves to see the LCD in his lifetime…

  • it’s too bad terminal 5 sucks ass in every way possible. I’d rather see you guys on TV then experience that hollow aircraft hangar.

  • Jenny from New Jersey

    I love you, I love you, I love you! I cannot express in words how grateful I am for these extra shows. I saw you guys at Terminal 5 last year and it was an experience that, at some level, changed the way I look at things. No really, it was beautiful. At the end of the night I found myself singing along and hugging a hipster, a complete stranger, and on the verge of tears during Someone Great. You guys are the embodiment of what the music industry is supposed to be about, the relationship between the artist and the fans.

  • Jj

    But what about the people that did get tickets to MSG, I got a couple 400 section tickets Wednesday, it seems like that show will now be overshadowed by the others. I guess i just hope the MSG show still kicks as much ass as it was originally supposed to.
    If everyone sticks to boycotting the scalpers, which I’m hoping happens, the MSG show could be effectively cancelled, right?

  • Droot Scoot

    Of course the Hollywood Bowl didn’t sell out…cuz it wasn’t touted as THE LAST SHOW EVAH.

  • Luiza

    great to see that respect and sincerity with the fans!
    I wish every band was like that!Most of the musicians are only interested in HOW MANY people are going to the concert,in NUMBERS!It’s wonderful to see someone caring about WHO is gonna be there,if all the REAL FANS will be able to at least say goodbye to this AMAZING BAND,AMAZING PEOPLE!
    I wish I was able to do that too!
    Wish you could come to BRAZIL!
    WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!

  • We met in Cleveland years ago, and you’ve not been back since (*sad mac face)
    but, I’m happy to see you’re trying what you can to help those of us willing to commute a distance to see you one last time (since you’re not coming to CLE anytime soon)

    Love you guys. Hope to not get fucked over/locked-out by scalpers…again

  • BoulderEagle

    What an amazing clusterf***. I can’t go, but my son in college was hoping to make it.

    Hats off to James and LCD for taking a horrible situation and turning it around for his fans. Always knew he had integrity.

    When’s the reunion tour start?

  • Tip

    So sad this band with so much love and energy will not be playing anymore. Glad I was so lucky last year to experience everything.

  • carniemel

    Yeah!!!! i tried so hard to get a ticket…… couldnt figure out how the hell that happen, had to go back to work then out so when i got home late last night i just went to see what had happen and if we all had any chances for this amazing show! my plans are to fly from cali get a hotel and get a ticket for every night!!! i love you guys you are the best!!!

  • aaron

    thank you so much for printing what I’ve been ranting since Wednesday! Like so many others, i got shut out on Wednesday and Friday, and I actually considered paying $140 for a nosebleed seat just to get in the building. thankfully I literally JUST found an amazing friend this morning who was able to get tickets on presale and gave me one. I’ll be flying in from Chicago for my 4th and (sadly) final LCD show.

    James, you and your band of friends are amazing and have been an inspiration to thousands and thousands of fans around the world. You will be missed, but at least I know we can hang out whenever I put on my headphones. Can’t wait to bid you farewell…

  • jason

    WILL THERE STILL BE A DRESS CODE?!

  • jz

    Hey guys,

    You’re music has changed my life. If more people lived their lives like james and lcd, the world would be a better place. sorry if thats too cheezy but thats the way i see it.

    Peace

  • josh

    back in the day, nin used a system where every 2 tickets were associated with a name at purchase and they checked id for that name against the ticket at the door. this seemed like a pretty good way of stopping scalpers.

  • Sean

    That’s awesome you guys added the shows. I was going to fly from Chicago to see the show for my bday (3/31), but got fucked when it sold out in no time.

    However, the added shows being in the middle of the week precludes me from being able to go then :(

    I’m sorry what happened, but I’m glad you did something about it.

    Much Love,
    Sean

    PS: I saw you at Pitchfork Music fest this year. Super fun amazing show

  • Evan True Fan Shervo

    We love you James, and David, Nancy, Tyler, Pat, Phil, Phil, Matt, Gavin, JD, Al. You’ve done nothing but great for us. And personally seeing you play is as good as it gets. See you soon friends.

  • GMS

    You guys aren’t pieces of shit. It’s awful that “fans” would say that! It’s ticketmaster who should be doing more to prevent this kind of shit, but why would they want to suddenly STOP sucking after all these year? *fistbumps Eddie Vedder*

    Maybe sell the T5 tickets in small batches? Two for my birthday, please! :)

  • Melvin

    please, please, PLEASE stream or release a DVD of the msg show! James, your genuineness and authenticity mean so much to me. Your lyrics always have and will continue to be a great source of inspiration; profoundly relevant and formative to the person that I am today. thanks guys, for being something great. you will leave a void in your wake, and many truly appreciative fans who could never thank you all enough.

  • mooshiko

    I remember first hearing Losing my Edge 9 years ago, and thinking.. “Wow, this guy knows what the fuck is up.” … Reading the above, I realize.. “Wow, this guy guy hasn’t lost sight of what the fuck is up.” …And, sincerely, James.. thank you for calling it quits. I caught you guys here in Houston, just before SXSW over in Austin, and that’ll be it for me and LCD. It’s been a pleasure, man. … Think I’ll sleep half the day, before catching Woolfy tonight here in Hustle-town. The next time you see Jacques, tell him I love him. lol

  • Eli

    Wish me and my gf lived in NYC, I was going through some massive health issues when you came to Portland back in the summer,and missed my chance to see you. So sad to see that you’ll never be touring again.

  • [...] (Update:) In a post on his website late Friday afternoon, James Murphy announced LCD Soundsystem will play four shows at NYC venue Terminal 5 leading up to the Madison Square Garden gig. The dates are March 28-31. You can read the release, as well as a long letter from Murphy addressing the entire situation, here. [...]

  • Ben Harrington

    I’m very proud of the way you are handling the whole thing, and I don’t just mean the msg show, but LCD Soundsystem. If you guys made another record as LCD this would be the norm for you, and instead of a heartfelt letter on your website you’d have to hire a PR firm to keep your sanity. The true fans will be there with you for your next project, you’ll still be able to play all the great clubs around the world and connect with the fans as friends instead of surrounded by security, and if you feel like it you can play an lcd song or two and make em happy. Just ask Robert Pollard, sometimes a name can be a big weight. (Not that GBV ever got to play MSG.)

  • Brandon Maldonado

    Dear James Murphy,
    I respect the fuck out of you. I wish all musicians showed the dedication and love for their fans like you do. Although I won’t be able to make it to your shows since I live in Chicago, I’m still excited for all the fans that will get to see one last LCD Soundsystem performance. I saw you back in October and you put on one hell of a fucking show. I just want to let you know (even though you already do) that your music makes everyone so happy. It’s going to be a sad world without you guys still playing but you left one hell of a mark on indie music. Fuck those scalping bastards and never stop being a badass man. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to meet you in person and thank you for making such fucking awesome music.

  • Nicole

    Love you James Murphy, somehow my friend snagged 8 tix on presale to MSG and we’re flying from L.A. for the penultimate dance party, can’t wait!

  • why cant ticketmaster make it so that all tickets are non-transferable and 100% refundable? you buy a ticket and you cant make the show, you get your money back. that keeps the tickets in the hands of the fans and makes it almost impossible for scalpers to resell.

  • Conor Dunn

    James Murphy, you might just be the best ever… im going to at least two of these terminal 5 shows. I was crushed when this msg fiasco occured and I mean alot that you care about us enough to do this. Thanks

  • Nick C.

    Excellent. Now I get to see Liquid Liquid at the Garden and suggest that in a similar vein, BUSH TETRAS and SUICIDE open some of the T5 shows!

  • [...] pissed about it. Murphey went on a heartfelt, and a little bit hilarious rant in this post. In a valiant effort to thwart the rapacious deeds of these scalpers LCD has announced a run of [...]

  • Jen

    Props, scalpers are seriously sub-human pond-scum. And more people need to realise that people in bands are still just normal people too. There’s only so much you guys can do, and it seems you’re doing just about all of it. You want to end with a last home NYC run, because that’s how you want to do it? Fair play. No farewell tour would ever satisfy everyone, too many people would be wishing you to go to their town however obscure it is, not being able to appreciate whatever chances they have already had (whether taken or not)to catch you.
    I can’t have enough respect for you wanting to end it on the terms you want, while doing all you can for your fans within that. [For full disclosure, I live in the UK and have no hope of attending the shows, but I'll deal with that]

    Enjoy the end. x

  • James,

    Best wishes to you and LCD in your final shows. I applaud you for fighting capitalism with anti-capitalism. Truly inspired. Looking forward to your next project.

  • karina

    I respect the concern for the fans…thank you…seriuosly…your message sounds honest and although I still have not found tickets, even with the terminal 5 shows added….I will go…because you are great, real, and I love your music. Thank you for all these years of great, great- great- beats.

  • Reinhardt Schuhmann

    Really great idea with the electronic ticket plan. I have, however, run into one major snag.

    Turns out I can’t make it to the Terminal 5 show on March 28th. Really sorry I’m not able to come. After I got over that I decided it would be best to give my tickets to a friend.

    Turns out I can’t do that. Really lame. Now 2 less people get to enjoy the show and I’m out $100 for nothing at all.

    Any help with this would be most appreciated. I’m willing to do anything short of show up at the show (as I said can’t make it) to ensure my friend can use these tickets.

  • Nate

    As a ‘proper’ fan, I will be attending this final show. Thanks to a scalper. Well, not really a scalper, but a guy who bought 4 tickets and needed to sell 2 of them. I paid him $225 per ticket, which was a mutually agreed price, and not far off from what scalpers were selling them for.

    You must realize these tickets will have a market price and ultimately you created the scalpers market by the way and price you put together this show. Whoever was in charge of pricing and selling these tickets totally fucked it up. And the scalpers capitalized on your mistake. It’s ironic that the bands who hate ’scalpers’ perfectly set up an environment for them to thrive. Essentially, you are worth more than you think you are. There are WAY more than 13,000 ‘proper’ fans of you. Scalpers knew this. You didn’t.

    If your goal is to only have the ‘proper’ fans as you say, then charge your lowly $43 a ticket and let people line up outside of MSG on the day of the show. I promise they will be the biggest fans. When they pay $43, they will have to go into the garden. That will completely eliminate the evil scalper. But, since that’s more work and costly for you, you will not do that. Are you greedy because of that? No, you are simply doing what is best for you..as are the scalpers.

    To limit the reselling of tickets at any price is limiting freedom of individuals to make choices for themselves. Most events market value of tickets is less than the face value.. it’s the rare instances such as this event when the public will pay more than what the band set their prices at to attend. Don’t punish those such as myself who don’t have time to keep up and be online at exactly 10:00am on whatever morning tickets for every concert I want to go to goes on sale. And, don’t punish those who buy 4 tickets to your show, and find out 2 weeks before they can’t go, and a band or venue make it impossible for them to sell their tickets quickly to someone else.

    Scalpers test the market BEFORE tickets even go on sale. So, before you even put tickets on sale, they were already listing tickets to see how many hits and purchases came in…which told them whether or not it was a profitable concert for them to buy tickets to. If you put a similar system in place, it would eliminate their market and fans would put the $ they are going to spend anyways into your pocket rather than scalpers. And, if you feel that price they are paying is too high, you can refund any $ you would like directly to those who attended your show.

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  • Tim

    God fucking dammit MSG last night was fucking rad. You motherfuckers burned it down to the ground!

  • [...] $1500 through different outlets. After a statement from James Murphy on LCD’s website entitled “F**k you scalpers, Terminal 5 shows added” it was apparent that this one last blowout was going to be a more drawn out process, with a [...]

  • [...] and on the other, Ticketmaster, whose system is seen as catering to the needs of scalpers. The most recent and loudest example of this would have to be the sale of tickets for LCD Soundsystem’s final show at Madison [...]

  • [...] Also, if you haven’t read his rant about how scalpers got a hold of a lot of that show’s tickets, definitely read that during snax-time: http://lcdsoundsystem.com/main/archives/647 [...]

  • I’ve never had more respect for a band and a front man than I have for you at this moment after reading your post (even if it is almost 4 months old). You’re the rule, Murph. Sorry to see you go.

    -Dr. P

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